#that's the fault of lefTiSm!!!

[kil9]

so why do the "foreigners are gona come meddle in american politics" crowd not care about elon musk 😐

[all-doggirls-go-to-heaven-2]

Hey btw if you post the "the reason men are getting more and more alt-right is 'leftism' and 'feminism'"I am blocking you. I do not care if we were mutuals. I have no respect for people that think we need to coddle men and our main fault as a movement is not coddling men.

[anamericangirl]

Just a lil wisdom from your ol friend Jay.

"The worst side to be on is the side that gets angry with you when you agree with them and support them."

I spent a full 11 years very very meticulously and very politely being respectful and supportive of the liberal left, even had my hair dyed blue and half shaved off, changed my name to Jynkx, identified as agender nonbinary, was dating a trans girl for 9 years and paid for her HRT for 3 full years, was (and still am) best friends with a trans person, had (still) a Discord server with pronoun selection, had many trans characters in my stories, was writing multiple stories and games featuring lesbian characters and characters of color, went to conventions wearing lipstick (as a boy), wore trans pride pins, wore pins with my pronouns on them, fundraised a total of $16,000 between three LGBT friends that were in toxic living situations that I used my position as a popular artist to get them out of, even moved to Ohio and lived with two gay guys.

And to this day I'm still regularly called a transphobe and a Nazi, and was called those things the entire time I was doing all that. For those full 11 years, that was my reputation. Transphobe and Nazi.

People are still so fucking stupid that they can't understand why like 70% of the country supports Trump and wants the liberal left to crash, burn, and either snap out of this shit or get the fuck out of our country immediately.

This is why.

Because even when you cater to them for a fucking decade they still hate you. They will always hate you. Nothing you can do will make them stop hating you.

So to everyone reading this: Stop. Stop catering to them. Stop listening to these fucking hateful freaks. You don't have to go full blown MAGA but for fuck sake stop supporting these psychos that call themselves Liberals or the LGBT or Antifa or BLM or whatever other name they have. I supported every fucking one of them for 11 years and was on the verge of suicide from how much they hated me and would constantly find fault in everything I did.

Get out. Either out of that mindset, or out of this fucking country.

PREACH!

A living testimony to the truth that no matter what you do you will never be good enough. It is a toxic, damaging environment and no one should be involved in it. Like you said you don’t have to go full MAGA or even go to the right at all. You just have to get out of the cesspool that is progressive leftism.

They don’t want your support. They want your compliance.

[nark-my-words]

sleep apnea isn't even unique to fat people and has plenty to do with genetics and windpipe shape but in my opinion, being "overweight" and bringing it up in disability spaces can be a really good litmus test for how fatphobic and slimy someone actually is and where their disability advocacy begins and ends

the leftism leaving disability advocates' bodies when fat people have a disorder ppl characterize as their fault etc

i know this sounds like I'm making up a guy but other ppl who are "Overweight" and have sleep apnea will get it. people treat us like shit lol

[starmada4546]

The Derailing Trump Train

This essay is by-and-large for people like me who regularly have to deal with conservative family members or coworkers or whatever godawful thing makes you have to put up with these kinds of people. If that's not you, the advice in this one probably isn't going to be very helpful, but you're welcome to stick around for the analysis, if you like.

As the veneer of moderate, respectable conservatism slips away, people are going to start getting their buyers remorse. I've already heard people discussing how they aren't fond of Trump's policy on Ukraine, or his tariffs, or how Elon Musk is slashing federal jobs and giving himself multibillion dollar contracts. Its... highly frustrating to say the least. When I hear a very conservative uncle talking about how Trump's promised tax cuts don't include him, it makes me want to scream "How the fuck can you possibly be so selfish?! You people have had almost a decade to realize this man is a serious contender for Worst Human Alive and the only time you can start caring is when it impacts you?!"It really hurts to see a man who has spent the last decade fanning the flames of fascism, destroying lives, spreading bigotry, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, only lose his supporters after he starts hurting them specifically.

For those unfamiliar, there's a meme on the internet that many people like to quote in these sorts of situations. It goes something like "'But I didn't think the leopards would eat my face!' sobs woman who voted for the leopards eating people's faces party."

Since the original incident that started this meme, Leopards Ate My Face has become a term that refers to conservatives who voted for a conservative politician who proceeded to do something to hurt them, usually because said conservative voter didn't bother to figure out what said politician actually stood for. It's a popular meme for good reason; it's cathartic to laugh at the comeuppance of others, right?

I generally speaking disagree. This sort of thing drives me absolutely up the wall. It's selfish people finally getting hurt by their own selfishness, but in a vast majority of cases, those selfish people still won't accept they were ever actually in the wrong. It's always that they were lied to, or that the circumstances changed, or some other bullshit excuse that serves the same rhetorical purpose: I can't possibly have been wrong, so something outside my control intervened. This is, of course, demonstrating a key feature of the conservative mindset, which is the fundamental lack of self accountability. If there was any acknowledgement that everything that was going to happen was well known in advance, that political scholars and economists and journalists were Screaming From The Fucking Rooftops that this was going to happen, they'd have to acknowledge that there were steps they could have taken to have not caused harm for themselves, because in the fundamental selfish narcissism of conservative thought, the only thing that is immutably morally wrong is anything that hurts me.

If there was any acknowledgement that they could have done five minutes of research to keep from committing the most egregious of moral sins, doing something against their own interests, they'd have to accept that they bear the responsibility for that. So it is always, always, someone else's fault. Any evidence they could have used is dismissed out of hand; the news stations are lying, the economists are profiteering hacks, and the political scholars are propagandists.

But go far enough down the train tracks, they start running out of people to blame. When they're far enough out from the election that the opinions and writings of the fourth estate don't matter to them anymore, the republicans control all three branches of government, and most of what vestiges of leftism still exist in the government are seemingly hellbent on being the most ineffectual, pathetic doormats in the history of opposition parties, the list from the center of the Venn Diagram of "People who I think have the power to screw me over" and "People who I hate," starts growing dangerously short for their cognitive dissonance. It may not often seem like it, but there is a limit to how far these people can stretch and distort their own reality.

This is where we see the step of most groups built on ideologies of hate, supremacy, and/or exploitation wherein the members of the group begin to turn on each other, or at the least to begin their own balkanization. Remember, the very last person they can blame for their woes is themselves. They will blame anyone and everyone else, including their Der Fuhrer before they go that far. If they start running out of people to blame, they find new ones.

(This also mirrors a key feature of fascism, where when an outgroup can no longer be reasonably blamed for the problems of a society due to their absence or lack of cultural relevance, and are replaced with new outgroups, thereby making the ingroup smaller and smaller, but I'm sure that's only a coincidence, wink wink nudge nudge.)

So, after analyzing the toxic narcissism inherent to this worldview, I'm gonna go ahead and proceed to light myself on fire with napalm by defending it.

Ok ok, I'm not actually going to defend it. But I am going to ask for it to be encouraged?

This behavior is absolutely fucking terrible, don't get me wrong, but it is also self destructive, at least as far as cohesive fascist movements go. When they start pointing the blame fingers at each other, that is the death knell for fascism. Fascism exists because it's an ideology of hate, but it proliferates because it doesn't market itself that way. It markets itself as a series of benefits for the average everyman, which are obtained through bigotry. When those benefits don't materialize, which they can't, because bigotry has never served anyone but those who already hold all the power, it creates resentment and distrust. This is usually where the fascists point at something else and say "Look, a minority!" but that strategy only works for so long before it becomes put-up or shut-up.

So believe me, when that conservative uncle complains about Trump's tax cuts and you just want to go ballistic, I understand that sucks. But I urge you, smile and nod. It's a low bar at this point, but he's taking a second to think about it. Maybe it isn't going to get him to take his head out of the Kool-Aid fountain, but resentment and distrust don't start a violent boil overnight. In fact, we don't need a violent boil. We don't necessarily need for these people to start voting for democrats, we just need them to decide they'd rather not bother heading to the polls on election day. A small simmer is enough.

Because eventually, when Trump strips enough of the iron off of the track, the train derails.

In the wise and seemingly eternal words of Sun Tzu, "Never interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake."

[shoujoboy-restart]

I (cis male) feel a bit alienated by the narrative of "young are disenfranchised and that's why the far-right is able to recruit them" not because it's wrong or it's not a true statement by most part but the thing is: the disenfranchisement is mostly caused by right wing and conservative narratives within our culture, and left wingers aren't responsible for creating it but they haven't been able to provide too decent of a remedy for it and are too focused on solely scolding cis het men for having been convinced by these right wing narratives into going against their self interest.

In reality, right wingers convince people the cause the disenfranchisement and male abandonent is actually at fault of progressive ideals within society.

For example the whole "male loneliness" debacle, yeah, cis het men are struggling a lot with loneliness, isolation and lack of connections, but that is mostly platonic and also with their family and relatives, however red pillers are able to convince men that Acshually™ they should focus solely on romantic and sexual connections with women ("no you are not gay or bisexual, that's leftist propaganda made gender theory marxist post modernism so stop being a fag") and that in fact this is the fault of feminism and leftism because women now don't have to rely on random men to function within a misogynistic society where a woman can't get a education or a house without a husband's permission.

Yes, leftism needs to abandon the whole shitting on men and the whole quirky misandry shit if they want to convince young males to just not be horrible people.

However, comma, in addition. Realistically speaking, even if you were doing the most mollycoddling towards men and became a an actual pick-me, no, many of these dudes wouldn't become normal because misogynistic and sexist ideologies would still be in effect, profitable and socially dominant. So yeah throw out the "kill all men" mentality but also don't be fucking mollycoddling mysoginy and sexism mindsets "cuz different opinions".

[batboyblog]

I just saw someone call "vote blue people" fascists today on this godforsaken website. They also rambled about Jews Zionists a little too much and repeated some blatant blood libel points so like, I shouldn't take anything they say seriously but.

Is that what we've come to? People voting for Democrats, the party that wants to destroy the world and its people the least... Fascists? Is there no winning with these damn people? What the hell is considered acceptable to them anymore?

hm, I mean I think there are a number of different types of these people. I think there are people who grew up in Republican households and took on all the anti-Democrat baggage and their leftism is rebellion against mommy and daddy but not very deep.

I think there are people influenced by the silly idea that the worse things get the better it is for the Communist Revolution thats totally about to happen any day now we swear, Karl Marx the once and future King will rise from his sleep to lead Britain in its hour of greatest need or whatever.

I think the media are really failing, because they love an idea of "balance" but like when it comes to say Republican criminality there isn't balance? there's no Democratic counter point? so they have to under cover Republican scandal and also lean into an unthinking narrative that whatever Republicans do is somehow Democrats fault? in some way "why didn't Democrats stop them?" well because thats not how it works? why did Republicans do it in the first place? why wasn't the public aware thats what Republicans would do if elected?

I think the antisemitism is a big factor this time around as you mentioned the raving about Zionists or whatever, putting all issues on the back burner to somehow "punish" Democrats for the fact a war broke out in a foreign country on the other side of the world when a Democrat happened to President.

which leads me to the final part, propaganda. When Trump was President he recognized Israel's annexation of two areas, East Jerusalem which has long been talked about as the site for a Palestinian capital, and the Golan Heights a legal part of Syria. This is the first time an American President (or any world leader) had recognized land occupied by Israel in the 1967 Six-Day War as a PART of Israel, rather than occupied. Trump went further and put forward a plan drafted by Israel and right wing American Israel hawks which would have reduced Palestine to a bunch of little islands of sovereignty cut off from each other by land annexed to Israel. A Palestine of bridges and tunnels. And Netanyahu claimed, and I believe him, that Trump said he could go ahead and annex that land even if the Palestinians said no to the deal (which they did)

do you remember the big protests then? no? none? you don't recall any of this? strange... because there are big bot networks boosting content about this conflict, making sure it makes it into your timeline, making sure you tie it to somehow be Democrats fault and that its the most important thing in the world and showing how upset you are by it is the single most important thing imaginable. All day, every day.

As far as Palestine goes, there are two options. The Party that believes in a two state answer, and the party that doesn't. Trump already signed off on annexation once, when he's back in office, now, after October 7th? ooof. Any one who's serious and not cooked knows which is the better choice.

[autistichalsin]

Honestly, the most reliable way to find out whether someone is really an actual leftist or just likes the aesthetic is by looking at their stances on the human rights of prisoners.

Do you actually think prisoners are still people, or do you think they forfeited their basic rights by being convicted of a crime (and please note the distinction between the terms "convicted of a crime" and "committed a crime," because these are not synonymous). Do you get angry at prisoners having little things that make their lives more tolerable, like books and TVs, OR are you a sadist who growls that they're "there to be punished"? Do you think prisons have an obligation to care for the health of prisoners, seeing as they have no choice but to be there, or do you grumble that "I don't get my healthcare paid for" (in America naturally) and thus think it's the prisoners' fault and not the lack of universal healthcare? Do you see that forcing prisoners to fight wildfires for cents an hour is slavery, or do you think slavery is an acceptable punishment? Do you think it's only basic common sense to offer pathways for prisoners to get a GED during their sentences- which is proven, time and again with empirical evidence, to reduce recidivism rates- or do you think it's not fair to pay for educating "lowlife criminals"? Do you think the death penalty is the ultimate infringement on human rights even in the best circumstances, and a tool for miscarriage of justice at worst given how many innocent people have been convicted, or does your desire to enjoy the suffering of the "right people" make you support it? Do you understand that prison systems are a tool for enforcing structural oppression, particularly towards people of color, poor people, queer people, and the mentally ill, or do you think that's just an acceptable cost for making sure the bad guys get punished? Do you care that the bad guys actually DON'T get punished seeing as how wealthy white rapists almost universally go free, or do you just enjoy the comfort of your imagined scenario too much to let go of it?

Prisons are the real true litmus test for self-proclaimed leftism because the standards are so low that they're in hell and most still can't even match those

[mossadspypigeon]

Jews aren't allowed to complain about leftism given that they created it. If leftists hate jews now it's all their own fault anyway.

[based-bobcat]

It's interesting that Ollie does most of the things Jason thinks Bruce doesn't do.

>Killing criminals, specifically avenging someone

As absolutely shit as Cry for Justice was, the fact that Ollie killed Prometheus for maiming Roy and killing Lian was absolutely in-character and Bruce wouldn't have done that. Bruce was dead at the time, but you bet your ass he would've tried to bring Ollie in after.

>Thinking about the little guy

A core aspect of Ollie's character is his leftism, I mean, his stance on looking out for the little guy. JLU isn't the only time he rejected joining the league because it was too far removed from the streets. He's more likely to protect people who loot supermarkets during a crisis than the owner who tries to shoo them out (This happened in 52). As much as bad writers would like you to think otherwise, Bruce would NOT condone rioting or looting of any kind.

>Looser parenting/Showing affection more.

Look, Ollie was a notoriously bad parent back in the day. But we can say that his hands-off approach did help Roy more than Bruce's my way or the highway type parenting with Jason. Both Roy and Jason had the same issues when they were kids (probably one of the reasons they get along so well, eh?), but at least Roy was allowed to go with the Titans. Being with kids his age probably helped immensely with his growth. And while Batman has trouble admitting he loves his Made Found family*, even too himself, Ollie doesn't have that problem. He tells his kids he loves them all the time and the amount of bear hugs he gives them cannot be counted on 4 hands.

Lest we forget that Bruce's way of ebbing Jason's anger issues was either to ignore it or telling him to his face that taking him in was a mistake.

Also Jason liking Ollie over Bruce is funny, because Bruce would fucking HATE it.

-*I know current writers, Tom the fanfic writer Taylor, like to write Bruce as someone who tells his wards he loves them every single opportunity he gets, but i'm sorry but that's just not him. Bruce is a severely emotionally stunted man and has trouble telling anyone he loves him. One might argue that this Alfred's fault, since he kept his distance emotionally until it was to late. a mistake he recognized and vowed to not make again with Dick, but that's a post for a different day.

[thoughtaddictand]

Pro-Palestinians are at fault for the rise of the far right in Europe

Pro-Palestinians, in particular the protests on their behalf, are at fault for the strong turnout for the right-wing populist parties in the European Parliament elections. They have put the obnoxiousness of muslim immigrants and far leftists on full display.

The average person here in Europe, who form the silent majority, doesn't give two shits about the Palitards. They support Israel, if not every single of its policies, at least its existence. They also realize that Palitards are a violent, non-peaceful people, against whom you HAVE to do something. Otherwise they'll harm good Israelis.

Now imagine being confronted with pro-Palestinian stupidity day after day: Them doing things like blocking highways, harassing Jewish worshippers and Jewish exhibitions, highjacking holidays and other festivities (like pride), and just TRYING to flaunt their obnoxiousness everywhere. You'd be justifiably pissed off, right?

Now imagine there's the "European People's Party Group", which is far-right, which is anti-leftism by nature, and also anti-Islam. It must sound so appealing to people sick of hearing about Palestine, don't you think?

[aspiringwarriorlibrarian]

Why did we (general, non-specific "we") decide that the liberals are the real enemy of leftism, and that the left should make common cause with the far right to destroy them? it just seems like a huge strategic error, and i was hoping that we all got that shit out of our system by now after seeing that it always leads to worse outcomes

Because when you're in an echo chamber, the enemy becomes the people slightly different to you and you forget that outside are people who deeply hate your guts and that democracy requires convincing the most amount of people to support your causes, not subdividing into the most ideologically pure factions.

e.g. The people complaining that I tagged a post with "israel hamas conflict" because they've spent most of their time on Tumblr with people who tag it "gaza genocide". Meanwhile, outside of Tumblr, more than half the country sees it as a war where we need to support Israel unconditionally and any civilian casualties are Hamas' fault and necessary sacrifices.

[marmorada]

I am so fucking sick of people acting like widespread, corrosive flaws in leftism like misogyny and antisemitism and white savior complexes are just transient not-real-left things like "growing pains", "remnants of a conservative upbringing," and "misplaced righteousness". If it's bad it's magically not leftist and if it comes to the point where evidence is public and incontrovertible the most you can admit is that well when it's us it's a wittle itty baby problem that's really not that bad.

We don't live in a fucking Marvel movie, political factions aren't fucking superhero teams. You don't get to say oh this person is evil so they were NEVER a TRUE member of the Avengers, Steve, this is HYDRA'S fault... There is no magical, spiritual, emotional, or otherwise, component to being part of a political faction. People don't get disqualified and minimized and quietly shuffled away if you don't like them to save your precious self-image. This isn't a YA book or a children's cartoon.

Clean. Up. Your. Movements.

[anton-the-cock]

wrote a reply but then decided that i do not want to engage with people butt i've already wrote two paragraphs, so I'll post it here separately

Context:

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Not really, though. Right-wing influencer will humiliate men (really, they'll just dig their claws into insecurities that are already there, like beauty products ads for women) but then offer a solution which is, of course, the product they're selling + fascism. Leftists will humiliate men ("grow up") and then give such general advice that no one is capable of following it. "Find a useful role in a society" is unclear and difficult. "Treat women like people" implies that the young man is at fault for his predicament and have been an asshole his entire life (he might have been but it's tough to admit everything is your fault). "Women suck and only want alphas" creates an understandable world where young man is either powerless (he can't change women's nature or become alpha) which frees him of the burden of responsibility, or has an easy solution ("Buy my shit to remove soy from your blood"). It also affirms that he is not at fault, and all people desperately want to hear it

The major difference isn't that men like to be humiliated (really, both sides humiliate men quite a lot), but the solution they provide them with. The general advice vs something they can actually believe in and follow (even if it is extremely unproductive and only breeds deeper depression that makes them more reliant on the dumbass advice from the right wing influencers)

The thing is, people like the easier way, they like clarity, and they like to blame someone else (capitalism?) Can you dumb it down, be clearer and make a person accept responsibility for their life while staying honest to your leftism?

So, in conclusion, this post was neither a clever comeback nor insightful. It's just a typical "dunking on my opponents", which is like, fine. Enjoy your moral superiority, I don't mind. I am overthinking stupid memes again. I am annoying and hate humor

[oblivionbladetd]

Anti-capitalist here! What really annoyed me about Lily own position of leftism is that she has no problem kissing the feet of big animation industry’s and put almost all the faults on creators of said animated formats they make, but talking about how industry should not be abolished and give the production and resources to actual workers, aka the creators of animation, she is silent on that.

I’m also critical of creators of said animation they make, make you can also realized that animation industry are inherently corrupt and should be abolish right then and there!

Honestly if she would’ve know what my leftist policies are, because they’re EXTREMELY far left, she would have a heart attack if she hears the things I talk about!

To give her any credit, there are creators out there that could stand to be lasso'd in like a stubborn cow. Now that we are done talking about George Lucas and David Cage, you are so fucking right.

Uncontraversial take, no company or corporation is ever your friend or is working in your best interests. Disney is not looking to enrich shit or push the envelope on nothin'. The greenlight meetings are less talking about beautiful art you want to bring into the world, and more tricking joyless million and billionaires to give you money in return for more money later.

No billionaire is your friend, and a boardroom of them would peel the skin off your bones with their bare hands for a 2% increase on their wealth.

Not every creator is this uncritisizeable golden child, but the priorities of going up to bat for a corporation to spite one or two individuals is FAR BEYOND absolutely fucked.

[ommastar]

funny how "terf" became the go-to term for transphobe.

sexist men who hate deviation from gender norms? nope, they're not the ones to blame.

feminism is to blame. everything is women's fault.

encapsulates that modern leftism is a men's rights movement.